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Post by nightthastus on Feb 15, 2017 6:12:56 GMT
Downloaded RadeonPro, so that solves more than one problem for me. Sets affinity and everything right out of the gate. How does one fix the buggy HUD? I don't know how I fixed it before, but my zoom's buggin' out, constantly zooming in and out and back again. Heat's doing the same thing but it doesn't go very high. Overall result is the game hitches constantly, which is annoying as hell. Also... no looping music?  Lucky one running a copy of MW3 on an original disc, so...  I'm afraid my testing only deals with the RIP version of MW3. I've seen numerous complains about issues with the original CD version on here and on the Outreach subreddit. I'd suggest just trying the RIP version with the instructions I posted. If you're using dgVooDoo and RivaTuner correctly as I stated, hitching shouldn't be a problem. Though that's an AMD card, so there could be weird stuff going on. |
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Post by blaze53 on Feb 15, 2017 6:35:25 GMT
Oh, hey, just what I was looking for. I can't seem to get Riva Tuner to actually do anything, though. The FPS counter doesn't show and vehicles still have Moonshoes on steroids attached to them. The game's also pretty choppy. I'm guessing framerate is tied to how we perceive the 'Mechs moving, since I can be speeding full-throttle and both hear and see my 'Mech go slower and then faster than, say, 86.4 KPH. In RivaTuner, you should see a "plus" icon at the bottom. Thats where you add games. Click it, find your Mech3.exe, and limit the framerate to 30. It has the option to show your FPS, you just need to enable "shown own statistics". And once you limit the FPS, you won't have physics problems, period. If you're still getting them, you're not using it right. Ya know, I'm inclined to call you a smartass, because I'm not stupid. A simple cursory glance at RivaTuner shows what needs to be done. And yet, for some strange reason, RivaTuner isn't hooking into MW3 like it should be! Got any helpful ideas as to why, smartass? Or am I "just not using it right" in a three-step process? |
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Post by blaze53 on Feb 15, 2017 6:39:29 GMT
Downloaded RadeonPro, so that solves more than one problem for me. Sets affinity and everything right out of the gate. How does one fix the buggy HUD? I don't know how I fixed it before, but my zoom's buggin' out, constantly zooming in and out and back again. Heat's doing the same thing but it doesn't go very high. Overall result is the game hitches constantly, which is annoying as hell. Also... no looping music? Lucky one running a copy of MW3 on an original disc, so... I'm afraid my testing only deals with the RIP version of MW3. I've seen numerous complains about issues with the original CD version on here and on the Outreach subreddit. I'd suggest just trying the RIP version with the instructions I posted. If you're using dgVooDoo and RivaTuner correctly as I stated, hitching shouldn't be a problem. Though that's an AMD card, so there could be weird stuff going on. I'm actually using the RIP version, myself. I installed with the physical copy and copied the RIP over because I don't typically use virtual drives. Figured it would be easier to fuck with the CD audio that way. I actually found a download of the MechWarrior Quadrilogy (happen to own all of the games in it, but downloaded it for convenience  ) and did a fresh install with that while trying to figure out how to limit FPS and installed from there. Realizing that was dumb and wanting to use the Weapons Mod, I uninstalled the Q-MW3 and reinstalled like I did normally. The difference between the first original install and this fresh install is that the HUD is freaking out at supersonic speeds and is affecting gameplay, causing the hitching. [EDIT] Hmm... even with my FPS limited to 30 and processor affinity set to 1 I get the crazy physics. The fuck, man. I just want to enjoy this game. And this is with an uninstall and using the rip exclusively. Why did I have to do all of the uninstalls I hated to think about recording this on the phone, but it was probably a smaller file than going through Bandicam or something. www.dropbox.com/s/tvtfvhb228pmnmb/VID_20170215_015417101.mp4?dl=0 |
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Post by AncientxFreako on Feb 15, 2017 9:52:21 GMT
I don't know if this might be an issue, but the quad pack installs to a different drive, which creates a different registry. If you uninstalled and reinstalled I'm wondering if there might be a conflict between the new install and the old registry? Quad pack 'Mech3 also changes a few files from the game itself such as the mech3.dll and maybe 1 other. If you're not reinstalling from the cd this might be something to consider.
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Post by blaze53 on Feb 15, 2017 15:31:05 GMT
I don't know if this might be an issue, but the quad pack installs to a different drive, which creates a different registry. If you uninstalled and reinstalled I'm wondering if there might be a conflict between the new install and the old registry? Quad pack 'Mech3 also changes a few files from the game itself such as the mech3.dll and maybe 1 other. If you're not reinstalling from the cd this might be something to consider. Well, I don't see anything related to filepaths in the registry, so I'm at a loss. Getting Mechwarrior 3 to run without hassle is kind of a pain in the ass these days, and seemingly based on all luck. |
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Post by nightthastus on Feb 16, 2017 2:33:38 GMT
In RivaTuner, you should see a "plus" icon at the bottom. Thats where you add games. Click it, find your Mech3.exe, and limit the framerate to 30. It has the option to show your FPS, you just need to enable "shown own statistics". And once you limit the FPS, you won't have physics problems, period. If you're still getting them, you're not using it right. Ya know, I'm inclined to call you a smartass, because I'm not stupid. A simple cursory glance at RivaTuner shows what needs to be done. And yet, for some strange reason, RivaTuner isn't hooking into MW3 like it should be! Got any helpful ideas as to why, smartass? Or am I "just not using it right" in a three-step process? Never intended to imply you were stupid. Not everyone is familiar with Rivatuner, and while the UI is pretty friendly it's not obvious at a first glance what does what. At least it wasn't for me. That's why I added how to do it. I will admit the "you're not using it right" came off a little harsh, so sorry. Got done with a 6 hour lab when I was replying to you, so I was a little snappy. Here's what my setup in RivaTuner looks like: imgur.com/a/ObGQDHope that helps. Again, the physics issues are just caused by framerate, because the physics engine does its calculations based on frames. It's the same issue with Skyrim/fallout and a few other games. If you limit your framerate using something or another, RivaTuner or not, that should fix it. You do have other options, like CPUGrabber, or the Nvidia Inspector. I've just found RivaTuner to have the least amount of issues. EDIT: I suppose Vsync is worth a shot. I have Gsync, so I might not be noticing issues without Vsync because I'm already effectively doing something similar. Sort of. |
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Post by heypiron on Feb 16, 2017 23:31:33 GMT
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Post by AncientxFreako on Feb 17, 2017 0:18:26 GMT
I doubt it works. I'm assuming it's a no cd patch because there was no other patch for Pirate's Moon. It is likely an unofficial no-cd patch.
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Post by herby on Feb 17, 2017 1:14:39 GMT
I would love to play PM but I can't get past level 3 because every time I use jump jets I fall flat on my face... except when jumping over a canyon at a designated point, and then I have to step off the edge before engaging them, otherwise I just fall right into the canyon. It's frustrating
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Post by heypiron on Feb 17, 2017 16:47:57 GMT
I doubt it works. I'm assuming it's a no cd patch because there was no other patch for Pirate's Moon. It is likely an unofficial no-cd patch. Sad... It will be cool to have proper nocd. Music for Mech3 and PM become laggy after some playtime and it can't be off without all game sounds. Every time i must put CD in and out... Can anyone apply this patch to Pirates moon's mech3.exe and send me via PM, please? Seems it's not working for windows 7 x64. Anyone still have Windows XP? |
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Post by StoneWall on Feb 18, 2017 15:06:59 GMT
V-sync on? You can also set the priority of Mechwarrior3 to a lower setting which will also fix a lot of problems. In my testing, Vsync being on or off does absolutely nothing. And neither does changing the priority of Mech3 (which shouldn't do anything anyways). Just cap the FPS to 30 using RivaTuner, or another third-party tool. Nothing else is required, nor will those things do anything at all. I've seen other threads say to turn it on, so I included it in my guide. But you are right, the MAIN issue is capping those frames to 30. I will do some testing to confirm V Sync and edit my thread if found correct on my end too. |
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Post by StoneWall on Feb 18, 2017 15:11:47 GMT
Ya know, I'm inclined to call you a smartass, because I'm not stupid. A simple cursory glance at RivaTuner shows what needs to be done. And yet, for some strange reason, RivaTuner isn't hooking into MW3 like it should be! Got any helpful ideas as to why, smartass? Or am I "just not using it right" in a three-step process? Again, the physics issues are just caused by framerate, because the physics engine does its calculations based on frames. It's the same issue with Skyrim/fallout and a few other games. We had this guess in the past about frame rate. When Skyrim was remastered recently and copies were flipping out, that confirmed FPS plays a huge role in modern games. |
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Post by StoneWall on Feb 18, 2017 15:57:50 GMT
In my testing, Vsync being on or off does absolutely nothing. And neither does changing the priority of Mech3 (which shouldn't do anything anyways). Just cap the FPS to 30 using RivaTuner, or another third-party tool. Nothing else is required, nor will those things do anything at all. I've seen other threads say to turn it on, so I included it in my guide. But you are right, the MAIN issue is capping those frames to 30. I will do some testing to confirm V Sync and edit my thread if found correct on my end too. After testing, it seems V Sync does not help. Trying multiple configurations confirms that capping your frame rate to 30 FPS is the most important step. I use CPU Grabber, which supposedly takes very little resources away from your computer. Great work nightthastus. |
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Post by blaze53 on Feb 25, 2017 21:42:12 GMT
Does anyone even know what causes the zoom window in my video to freak out at all? I frankly can't figure out what does it, even after 95% CPU grabber and frame rate cap.
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Post by StoneWall on Feb 26, 2017 0:44:32 GMT
Does anyone even know what causes the zoom window in my video to freak out at all? I frankly can't figure out what does it, even after 95% CPU grabber and frame rate cap. Have you tried changing your resolution? Maybe get teleguy's HD patch and increase the resolution past 800x600. |
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Lucky one running a copy of MW3 on an original disc, so... 
) and did a fresh install with that while trying to figure out how to limit FPS and installed from there. Realizing that was dumb and wanting to use the Weapons Mod, I uninstalled the Q-MW3 and reinstalled like I did normally. The difference between the first original install and this fresh install is that the HUD is freaking out at supersonic speeds and is affecting gameplay, causing the hitching.
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