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Post by StoneWall on Jul 17, 2016 17:52:28 GMT
Do you guys know about this? You Quickplay with people based on your Tier rating. That means all the newbs play each other and all the hackers/l33tz play each other. How are people supposed to get good at MW if they don't get their asses beat?
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Post by subject9x on Jul 17, 2016 21:48:21 GMT
I mean, define 'asses being beat.' In a F2P game system where your ability to partake in the 'meta' is tied to a wallet (fictional or otherwise.) there will be a group of players who will just always have an advantage which skill can never make up for. I dont agree at all with this game design approach but that is what MWO is. Pay-to-win doesn't always equate to outright buying advantage, it can mean having a consistent advantage (however minor) over a set of games (like owning the best clan mech that a new player wouldn't be able to get.)
So given that, do I take your complaint as: any given new player should be repeatedly forced to fight other players who have built-in advantages just because they've sunk more money into the game?
All of this is of course also not addressing the question of desirable gameplay in MWO, ie 'what is fun'. I tried playing last year, and 'what is fun' apparently was things like
-nakedly hewing to the strictest meta requirements
-demanding a given 'damage output' total for specific players in specific chassis
-following specific 'best' routes in the map or risking complete loss
-if a player didn't do any of the above, they were spit upon by 'better' players
if the above is the definition of 'gitting gud' at MWO, count me out.
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Post by StoneWall on Jul 24, 2016 12:57:13 GMT
Yeah I really don't like how the meta is tied to the wallet. All mechs, all weapons, and all equipment should be 100% free to use with purchase of the game. They have "trial mechs" but you don't own them and can't configure them. Like rotating stock mechs.
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Post by AncientxFreako on Jul 26, 2016 22:51:48 GMT
That's total BS.
Can't configure the mechs they start you with?
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck them.
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Post by StoneWall on Jul 29, 2016 16:24:19 GMT
That's total BS. Can't configure the mechs they start you with? Fuuuuuuuuuuuck them. You have to grind up to buy mechs and equipment or pay them money.  |
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Post by subject9x on Jul 29, 2016 19:41:32 GMT
and they couldnt even organize the unlocks into a cool 'tech tree' like World of Tanks, so with your wallet; you can just buy the current 'best mechs' and deploy them. Also another design gem: to unlock all the 'special traits' for any mech chassis you have to level up 3 different variants of that mech by grinding. Just want the most fun Hunchback variant 'mastered'? too bad, go suffer in 2 other hunchback variants whose gameplay style you hate and think its a waste of your time...or spend 60$....y'know the price of full AAA games. Honestly I dont know why the Mechwarrior Community has put up with being fleeced at every turn by PGI, I guess nostalgia blinds you into thinking 140$ on a single mech (and its variants) is 'good value'...when in reality there is no 'normal' price for 3d, virtual mechs...
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Post by StoneWall on Jul 29, 2016 20:47:51 GMT
and they couldnt even organize the unlocks into a cool 'tech tree' like World of Tanks, so with your wallet; you can just buy the current 'best mechs' and deploy them. Also another design gem: to unlock all the 'special traits' for any mech chassis you have to level up 3 different variants of that mech by grinding. Just want the most fun Hunchback variant 'mastered'? too bad, go suffer in 2 other hunchback variants whose gameplay style you hate and think its a waste of your time...or spend 60$....y'know the price of full AAA games. Honestly I dont know why the Mechwarrior Community has put up with being fleeced at every turn by PGI, I guess nostalgia blinds you into thinking 140$ on a single mech (and its variants) is 'good value'...when in reality there is no 'normal' price for 3d, virtual mechs... I've been playing a Jenner F, but I am not going to buy the other mechs(with C Bills or real bills) just to get a few extra perks. And I don't even use Consumables, I rely on my aim. |
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